Post by delshofnerfan on Nov 21, 2023 21:03:27 GMT -5
Callie if you remember The reason the Spurs got Duncan was 1) Robinson got hurt was was out for the season and 2) the ping pong balls were heavily skewed where the Celtics were expected to get the #1 pick and the purs defied the odds and got the pick. It wasn't because they successfully tanked...
It took the Cubs how many years to win a WS and how many have the won since ? I'd have to check on the NHL, but as pointed out football is much different than any other sport. A hot goalie can carry you to the Stanley Cup, doubtful 1 player can impact a football game to the same degree.
Marc you are 100% correct, bad drafting and poor cap management is why the Giants are where they are now. That said there are multiple other teams with just as many, if not more egregious failures. How many QBs have the Browns drafted high since Bernie Kosar was playing that have flopped. The Jets have been searching for a QB since Namath. Is it more egregious that they drafted Darnold and then followed up with Wilson ? What about the Pats and looking for Brady's replacement in Jimmy G and then Mac Jones ? How about Arizona drafting Rosen then Kyler Murray back to back ? Look at Baker, Herbert, Phillip Rivers, Drew Brees, Peyton how successful have they been leading their teams to SB wins.
Eli has more SB wins than they do.
Just because a college QB is highly thought of, drafted high does not mean he can take his team to the SB, Sorry Callie that goes against your comparison with the Penguins drafting Lemieux and Crosby.
Mahomes, the 9th pick has had more success than any of his contemporaries. TB12 the 6th rounder, who only got an opportunity because of an injury, was 6th rounder. Joe Montana was a 3rd rounder. Almost as important is these QBs would not be successful if it wasn't for a great supporting class. Bradshaw and Franco, Swann and the other WR whose name escapes me, Montana had Roger Craig and Jerry Rice, Mahomes has Kelce and had Hill, Brady had Welker, Edelman and Gronk.
Who is to say the Giants would go QB with their first pick. What if they had the 2 and Maye and Harrison were available ? What if someone blew them away with a trade package ?
Tanking may improve your odds but it's far from a guarantee.
Oh and while Apple, Engram were not worthy of where the Giants picked them Apple's managed to hang around with some pretty good teams. Engram had a pretty good year with the Jags, Neal doesn't look good and even Flowers hung around but again not worthy of where he was picked. So they didn't bomb out after a year or two.
There is no guarantee the Caleb Williams or Drake maye is the savior , but I guarantee you Daniel jones is not ,and they need to move on
. Otherwise they will keep banging their head against a wall and throwing good money after bad
. Pro sports is about analytics,which is improving your odds based on Strategy and gaining every little edge . Tanking accomplishes that, I can also guarantee you the giants are not going anywhere this season and drafting 3 rd gives them a much better future than drafting 15th