Post by stonedinvestor on Nov 28, 2017 9:11:25 GMT -5
As this horrible season has dragged on there came a similar refrain from a host of Giants players and coaches: "don't worry there's a lot of football to be played still". The first time they said it, one couldn't help feeling like they were being lectured to: Oh us silly fans! Of course you know better.... The second and third time they said it, they were telling the truth. The fourth time they said it-- clearly they were talking to themselves. The fifth and I think last time they said it, our coach assured us from the podium that there was Still a lot of football to be played. What started as a hopeful fact had dwindled into what sounds to the fan as a threat.
I asked myself: After what game would we not hear that anymore. Reese said it, Mara said it, McAdoo said it; they all said it over and over. When will they stop saying it?
Well we had our Redskin game when we lost to a clearly inferior team even with our injuries and coming out of that debacle I haven't heard Eli say it, McAdoo, or anyone. I think it's official now: There's Not A Lot Of Football To Be Played. It's about time the fans were rewarded for being right from stage one. It's not enough to collect your paycheck and lecture us on the length of a season and chide us for being to pistol ready to line up a firing squad; it's time for some payback. NO JOHN MARA you were wrong, There Is Not A Lot Of Football Games To be Played! WE were right-- YOU WERE WRONG. Every smug letter you wrote back saying the same thing and you WERE WRONG EVERY TIME> The Fans were CORRECT, they knew what they were seeing and now that your robe has been ripped from your boney body, we can all see the King has no clothes. (Nor does Charlie Rose!) We are equal now and it's HIGH time YOU started listening John Mara-- Open those little ears. AND LISTEN TO WHAT THE FANS WANT. Or They will STOP coming.
If I hear Boomer on the radio say one more time how great it is Eli suits up for every game I really will jump out my window. Some people threaten that-- i'll do it.
It seems we are at a crossroads here. This is a moment for radical and different thinking. It's time to throw Eli under the bus again. The first time he was barely clipped by the fender, this time Eli needs to be rolled over good. I'm sorry. I challenge you to find a bigger Eli supporter than myself, sure I had my years of ripping him but I sit in front of the telly every game hoping Eli will revert to his old non scared self. IT's NOT HAPPENING> We can bring back all the able bodied receivers we want to and it's still not happening. The deep throws left us some years ago, but what's really frightening is Eli's lack of ability on the shortest throws-- dump offs to running backs that become short passes because Eli is backing up so. I'm sure when we had our little ' film review ' the one that drove Eli Apple into the street crying, I am SURE there was not ONE BAD ELI play shown. I'll bet my last dollar the entire team was not shown one bad Eli play. That is all saved for the smaller breakdowns that Eli emerges from and says Aw Shucks there were a few passes I could off done better a deep one to Shep etc... Never the full embarrassment of a team assessment. I have created just such a film loop with Eli as star if the Giant coaches ever need it.
The best thing we can do now IS NOT REBUILD. Yup, it's really best for everyone involved, that we keep pointing back to our defense of last year and hope for an easier schedule next. McAdoo must be LET GO because his offense has sputtered so. ELI Must Feel The Real Challenge of A Replacement if we are ever to get a last spark out of him. Surely when he looks at the team now with the ex Jet QB and some rook who has been given all of six plays with the first offense since camp... Let that sink in... When Eli looks at that he feels mighty confident about his longevity record. That's why with this once in a five or ten year chance of getting a really top draft pick--it would seem to make sense to grab a QB of the future.
It would make sense to put Eli on notice. Fire McAdoo, Fire Jeremiah Davis, in his 30th year with the Giants, Fire Steve Verderosa, also in his 30th year as a scout, and Stephen Devine, Donnie Etheridge and Ryan Jones, all in their 17th year with the team, GO AWAY YOU OLD FARTS!!!! Bring Me New THINKING!!!!
Reese has told his scouts, “You have a job as long as I have a job.” I wonder if that's really true.... I don't know why but I still have this little feeling that will not go away that Reese makes it through all of this. With coordinators Steve Spagnuolo, Mike Sullivan and Tom Quinn ALL FIRED!!!! — all brought in by Tom Coughlin — Safeties coach Dave Merritt was part of Coughlin’s original 2004 staff and has been at his position ever since. Good riddance.
So we have fired NINE coaches and scouts so far and still we swing the axe... the next one is the most important: Marc Ross. It's Ross who has hoodwinked Jerry on all these recent misses as Reese spent more time doing GM' things. Eli Apple is Marc Ross's mistake. Jerry has blame as well for being frozen and allowing teams to move up all-around him and snag the guys he favored but Ross gets the blame and for Flowers too and for so many more. Marc Ross has lost the touch. If Ross goes so does Kevin Abrams, the assistant GM and cap expert.
Where are we!!! ELEVEN FIRINGS!!! I think Mara has made his point. Lets add Ken Sternfeld from the pro-personnel side--
That's TWELVE!!! An egg carton. GONE!
That sends a message I think and amazingly Jerry Reese Can Be Still Standing. After all the Giants have not fired a general manager in 39 years. To Mara there has to be this old school feeling of we just don't do that-- that's not the Giants style. Neither is firing twelve workers, but this clearing out of bad energy will also shake up Reese. He will have less control and he will have broken a promise to his scouts, that as long as he's there they will be there. If he stays he will be conflicted, he will be one with management to the bitter end.
... Or to a fantastic rebirth. Clearly the Giants need New Thinking, A New Attack on the Draft process, New Types of Players brought in. And We Need A New Inspirational Coach. Someone with gravitas the players must look up to and preform for. It's a matter of trust and our guys do not trust McAdoo. Apparently last year Nick Saben was really close to getting the job or was it the year before but that's an interesting rout to go. I would like any number of college coaches but that does present a respect problem to the players. Not Saben, he's too famous but some of the others like Shaw I just wonder the appreciation of the vets for this type off transition.
One of the biggest questions to ask ourselves this off season is: Are we a defensive first team or an offensive first team? Mcadoo sets up a team that looks to be offensive first and then defers on every coin toss. No running game, no passing game. I think the GIANTS have always been Defensive First. I would like to see a defensive minded coach and I don't mind being the old school team that still does things the old way, I don't crave the bells and whistles of a open and fast offense-- I just want to get back to winning football.
Mara has privately told people that he craves to be 'like the Patriots' I wouldn't mind that either. Lets take a long look at what the Patriots do right year after year and try to start copying. I cannot believe what they do with both their unique offense and ability to get people open through formations and more impressive even how they coach up a pedestrian defense into a playoff caliber one throughout the season. I've said this before but Matt Patricia the D Coordinator for the Pats, he must of soaked up so much Bill Belichick knowledge by now, he can't help but be a great head coach. I fear that the Giants next move may be to eliminate coaching candidates with no Head coaching experience. The feeling being MCadoo was so overwhelmed but that would be a mistake.
A Nick Saben is going to really take over everything, he'll want to be GM as well... Any coach that comes is going to bring in all his own scouts and player personal guys. Perhaps the best John Mara can do for the Giants now is totally revamp the scouts and coaches of the Giants, chose a defensive minded head coach that will instantly have the respect of the players and go into next season with a viable alternative to Eli.
Dec 10th. D Day. So much attention will be payed to that game-- that's the one Mara wants to win so. Dallas. Mara is lucky Dallas is terrible this year and about to fire their head coach. I must say I am the only one who predicted that right at the beginning of the year! But this fact is also a Giant problem. This hanging onto the remaining games because there's always ' a lot of football to be played' it puts us in a line of teams looking for new coaches instead of being the FIRST team looking for a new coach. If we lose to the Raiders (they are banged up and we represent a trap game) And lose at home to Dallas that will be it. McAdoo will be let go in season. You heard it here first.
Dec 10th happens to also be family day for the Giants, that game in which all the scouts come and bring their families to witness the product they have put on the field. Under each of their seats will be a blue envelope taped to the bottom, if the game gets out of hand, everyone will be told to check under their seats. They will have seen their last free game at Giants stadium. Up in the glass booth, a fretfull Jerry Reese will check under his seat too-- will he have an envelope taped there or not? This Has Been An Impartial review. ~stoney
I asked myself: After what game would we not hear that anymore. Reese said it, Mara said it, McAdoo said it; they all said it over and over. When will they stop saying it?
Well we had our Redskin game when we lost to a clearly inferior team even with our injuries and coming out of that debacle I haven't heard Eli say it, McAdoo, or anyone. I think it's official now: There's Not A Lot Of Football To Be Played. It's about time the fans were rewarded for being right from stage one. It's not enough to collect your paycheck and lecture us on the length of a season and chide us for being to pistol ready to line up a firing squad; it's time for some payback. NO JOHN MARA you were wrong, There Is Not A Lot Of Football Games To be Played! WE were right-- YOU WERE WRONG. Every smug letter you wrote back saying the same thing and you WERE WRONG EVERY TIME> The Fans were CORRECT, they knew what they were seeing and now that your robe has been ripped from your boney body, we can all see the King has no clothes. (Nor does Charlie Rose!) We are equal now and it's HIGH time YOU started listening John Mara-- Open those little ears. AND LISTEN TO WHAT THE FANS WANT. Or They will STOP coming.
If I hear Boomer on the radio say one more time how great it is Eli suits up for every game I really will jump out my window. Some people threaten that-- i'll do it.
It seems we are at a crossroads here. This is a moment for radical and different thinking. It's time to throw Eli under the bus again. The first time he was barely clipped by the fender, this time Eli needs to be rolled over good. I'm sorry. I challenge you to find a bigger Eli supporter than myself, sure I had my years of ripping him but I sit in front of the telly every game hoping Eli will revert to his old non scared self. IT's NOT HAPPENING> We can bring back all the able bodied receivers we want to and it's still not happening. The deep throws left us some years ago, but what's really frightening is Eli's lack of ability on the shortest throws-- dump offs to running backs that become short passes because Eli is backing up so. I'm sure when we had our little ' film review ' the one that drove Eli Apple into the street crying, I am SURE there was not ONE BAD ELI play shown. I'll bet my last dollar the entire team was not shown one bad Eli play. That is all saved for the smaller breakdowns that Eli emerges from and says Aw Shucks there were a few passes I could off done better a deep one to Shep etc... Never the full embarrassment of a team assessment. I have created just such a film loop with Eli as star if the Giant coaches ever need it.
The best thing we can do now IS NOT REBUILD. Yup, it's really best for everyone involved, that we keep pointing back to our defense of last year and hope for an easier schedule next. McAdoo must be LET GO because his offense has sputtered so. ELI Must Feel The Real Challenge of A Replacement if we are ever to get a last spark out of him. Surely when he looks at the team now with the ex Jet QB and some rook who has been given all of six plays with the first offense since camp... Let that sink in... When Eli looks at that he feels mighty confident about his longevity record. That's why with this once in a five or ten year chance of getting a really top draft pick--it would seem to make sense to grab a QB of the future.
It would make sense to put Eli on notice. Fire McAdoo, Fire Jeremiah Davis, in his 30th year with the Giants, Fire Steve Verderosa, also in his 30th year as a scout, and Stephen Devine, Donnie Etheridge and Ryan Jones, all in their 17th year with the team, GO AWAY YOU OLD FARTS!!!! Bring Me New THINKING!!!!
Reese has told his scouts, “You have a job as long as I have a job.” I wonder if that's really true.... I don't know why but I still have this little feeling that will not go away that Reese makes it through all of this. With coordinators Steve Spagnuolo, Mike Sullivan and Tom Quinn ALL FIRED!!!! — all brought in by Tom Coughlin — Safeties coach Dave Merritt was part of Coughlin’s original 2004 staff and has been at his position ever since. Good riddance.
So we have fired NINE coaches and scouts so far and still we swing the axe... the next one is the most important: Marc Ross. It's Ross who has hoodwinked Jerry on all these recent misses as Reese spent more time doing GM' things. Eli Apple is Marc Ross's mistake. Jerry has blame as well for being frozen and allowing teams to move up all-around him and snag the guys he favored but Ross gets the blame and for Flowers too and for so many more. Marc Ross has lost the touch. If Ross goes so does Kevin Abrams, the assistant GM and cap expert.
Where are we!!! ELEVEN FIRINGS!!! I think Mara has made his point. Lets add Ken Sternfeld from the pro-personnel side--
That's TWELVE!!! An egg carton. GONE!
That sends a message I think and amazingly Jerry Reese Can Be Still Standing. After all the Giants have not fired a general manager in 39 years. To Mara there has to be this old school feeling of we just don't do that-- that's not the Giants style. Neither is firing twelve workers, but this clearing out of bad energy will also shake up Reese. He will have less control and he will have broken a promise to his scouts, that as long as he's there they will be there. If he stays he will be conflicted, he will be one with management to the bitter end.
... Or to a fantastic rebirth. Clearly the Giants need New Thinking, A New Attack on the Draft process, New Types of Players brought in. And We Need A New Inspirational Coach. Someone with gravitas the players must look up to and preform for. It's a matter of trust and our guys do not trust McAdoo. Apparently last year Nick Saben was really close to getting the job or was it the year before but that's an interesting rout to go. I would like any number of college coaches but that does present a respect problem to the players. Not Saben, he's too famous but some of the others like Shaw I just wonder the appreciation of the vets for this type off transition.
One of the biggest questions to ask ourselves this off season is: Are we a defensive first team or an offensive first team? Mcadoo sets up a team that looks to be offensive first and then defers on every coin toss. No running game, no passing game. I think the GIANTS have always been Defensive First. I would like to see a defensive minded coach and I don't mind being the old school team that still does things the old way, I don't crave the bells and whistles of a open and fast offense-- I just want to get back to winning football.
Mara has privately told people that he craves to be 'like the Patriots' I wouldn't mind that either. Lets take a long look at what the Patriots do right year after year and try to start copying. I cannot believe what they do with both their unique offense and ability to get people open through formations and more impressive even how they coach up a pedestrian defense into a playoff caliber one throughout the season. I've said this before but Matt Patricia the D Coordinator for the Pats, he must of soaked up so much Bill Belichick knowledge by now, he can't help but be a great head coach. I fear that the Giants next move may be to eliminate coaching candidates with no Head coaching experience. The feeling being MCadoo was so overwhelmed but that would be a mistake.
A Nick Saben is going to really take over everything, he'll want to be GM as well... Any coach that comes is going to bring in all his own scouts and player personal guys. Perhaps the best John Mara can do for the Giants now is totally revamp the scouts and coaches of the Giants, chose a defensive minded head coach that will instantly have the respect of the players and go into next season with a viable alternative to Eli.
Dec 10th. D Day. So much attention will be payed to that game-- that's the one Mara wants to win so. Dallas. Mara is lucky Dallas is terrible this year and about to fire their head coach. I must say I am the only one who predicted that right at the beginning of the year! But this fact is also a Giant problem. This hanging onto the remaining games because there's always ' a lot of football to be played' it puts us in a line of teams looking for new coaches instead of being the FIRST team looking for a new coach. If we lose to the Raiders (they are banged up and we represent a trap game) And lose at home to Dallas that will be it. McAdoo will be let go in season. You heard it here first.
Dec 10th happens to also be family day for the Giants, that game in which all the scouts come and bring their families to witness the product they have put on the field. Under each of their seats will be a blue envelope taped to the bottom, if the game gets out of hand, everyone will be told to check under their seats. They will have seen their last free game at Giants stadium. Up in the glass booth, a fretfull Jerry Reese will check under his seat too-- will he have an envelope taped there or not? This Has Been An Impartial review. ~stoney