Post by grizz299 on Mar 2, 2020 15:59:28 GMT -5
No one played well from the 2018 draft. Barkley was hurt for most of the season. Surprise, surprise, a RB got hurt..... Hernandez played like a bust. The third round picks were awful, Hill was so bad that Gettleman decided to trade for L.Williams.
The 2018 draft looks like a disaster. Will they turn it around? Who knows.
No one played well from the 2018 draft.........third round picks were awful.... worse than wrong, I'd label that "Dishonest" and wilfully mis-representative. Let's seek a little context: Here's what our third round picks looked like pre Gettleman.... Jaylon Hosley, odeghizuena (two guys who didn't want to play) Brewer, Jay Bromley, Damontre Moore, Davis Webb, Jeril Jennigan, Damontre Moore, D, Thompson... ten years of consistent failures and barely a meaningful down played.... Against that almost league wide malaise,, Cartier and Hill look like capable starters at least and to find such in the third round is rare and a credit not a negative. The Nihilist's judge them as if they were first round picks and do so willfully.
A running back got hurt...surprise surprise.... more mis-information and a false inference from a salient fact. Barkley missed three games in two years therefore he's missed 10.6 % of his games.
His quarterback was eligble to start 14 games and missed three of them so he's missed fourteen percent.
But maybe the Giants are not representative so let's look at the division....Washington lost RGIII to injury, went for Alex Smith and lost him to injury for two years. And on to Phila. where Wentz has missed significant time each year AND the two playoffs they qualified for. Prescott has been durable but let's remember he was pressed into duty when the oft injured Romo had to hang them up due to a reoccuring back. Maybe we should go leaguewide and start to talk about our Un-LUCK e boy in Baltimore who prematurely hung them up last year due to reoccurring injuries or maybe we should go league wide with Foles losing the year, or Cam Newton out for a year or the time costing injuries to Dree Brees, Sam Darnold and maybe a dozen other QB's I'm not going to bother to research.
Yes running baks get injured, but it's a contact sport and so do the well protected Quarter backs, diva receivers, linemen etc..
. If they presented running back as one of the more dangerous positions among dangerous positions, I'd respect the input. But that's not the way it's done here where it's about distorting to serve a cause, an agenda and a need. It must be noted too that Saquon was never injured in college and that his running style, practice regime, and physique should serve to make him particularly durable. But that's not relative.
The real urge (gratifying need?) is to denigrate Gettlemen and in that quest we've heard that the third round picks were "Horrible" and that Barkley is oft, by inference, injured and we've heard that incessantly for two years.
You can knock down the straw men but they keep molding the scarecrows.
The joy over the apparent, according to the Nihilist, folly of the OBJ trade, the witlessness of picking Jones etc. have been taken away by contrary and indisputable facts but has not diminished the fervor beng proven almost inarguably wrong on issues has little impact. "You can get running backs late"was one they bored us wiht for years - with the necessary inference that you can't get a QB late... nevertheless we are witnessing a changing of the guard now - all time greats nearing the end and immediate entry into the Hall.... Aaron Rogers, Drew Brees and Tom Brady.... aLL late picks. And who stands as the likely heirs and the most dominant jplayers in the game??.... Wilson, Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes. Six potential immortals and some quik (and mildly inaccurate) math suggests they averaged the 64 th. (Plus or minus) picks in the insecure and imprecise draft. Of course, Mineshaw and Garrapolo might be included among the stars of the future and they went at approximately an average of the 170th. pick. The league is littered with low picks starring and high picks failing at the QB position. To suggest that you can only find running backs late is wrong.
Meantime, at the time of the original discussion the top three running backs were arguably Elliot, Barkley and Todd Gurley ...all top five choices.
The purpose of the thread is not to destroy valid assertions: Running backs are among the most injured ; and they can often be found late. The idea is to challenge the "absolute" quality to those limited assertions and put them in context. Quarterbacks can be found late too and Quarterbacks get injured too. What we've been subject to is Assertions being corrupted and exaggerated to serve an agenda and an agenda created to serve a need that corrupts and moves intellect to supporting a position rather than finding it. I hope, but doubt, that we can put the Barkley pick behind us and stop seeing it distorted and dominating the next two years of threads.
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