2021 Injuries And 2022 injuries discussion

[goldenratio]

The NYG Injured reserve count is currently at 18 players on IR according to Spotrac>>> 


www.spotrac.com/nfl/injured-reserve/

It also says (If I'm reading it correctly) that the NYG have had 28 players go on IR this season.  That Makes the NYG the second most injured team currently, behind only the Titans. The NYG team is the 6th most injured team in 2021 for the season so far.

BTW they said on NFL network that the Titans team is the most injured team EVER.  It seems to have been an historically bad year for injuries in the NFL in 2021.

[goldenratio]

I think injured reserve players do count against the cap.

[theduke25]

Dec 3, 2021 20:45:03 GMT -5 goldenratio said:

I think injured reserve players do count against the cap.

They do. They don't count against the roster but do against the cap.

One of things to remember about the increase in IR players around the league is the change made to the timeframe last year. Before, teams were hesitant to put a guy on IR if they assumed 2, 4 or 6 week time tables.

It used to be an 8 week minimum of absence from games AND practice, plus you could only designate 2 to return. Now it's 3 weeks and unlimited returns. Huge difference.

[homerj45]

I think if you sign guys with history of injuries, you are adding guys to your roster you cannot count on.

[Deleted]

Is it just because I’m a biased fan, or do the Giants usually seem to be one of the most injured teams on a yearly basis?

That Cowboys game this year was absolutely absurd.

Frustrating because I really think this is an 8-10 win team talent wise. But in typical Giants fashion they flat out blew two games (Wash, ATL) to teams they were better than and every single key offensive skill player got hurt at some point.

Even more frustrating because even with all that, the rest of the schedule is not bad at all and we could win 5-6 of these games…..if we were healthy. But we’re not, of course.

[goldenratio]

[goldenratio]

NYG officially are the most injured team for 2021. It is also an NFL record for most injured and IR players in a season. To be fair part of it has to do with Covid-19.

www.spotrac.com/nfl/injured-reserve/

[homerj45]

Something going on with the turf at Met Life for sure

[50yearfan]

Dec 30, 2021 7:10:52 GMT -5 homerj45 said:

Something going on with the turf at Met Life for sure

Many of these guys are injured at practice.   So it wouldn't be just the stadium.

[homerj45]

Dec 30, 2021 7:33:27 GMT -5 50yearfan said:

Dec 30, 2021 7:10:52 GMT -5 homerj45 said:

Something going on with the turf at Met Life for sure

Many of these guys are injured at practice.   So it wouldn't be just the stadium.

Just to many on the field injuries to ignore it. It was gruesome watching Shep get locked down on the turf 

[ordinaryG]

Toney didn’t practice,, listed as a shoulder injury?

Glass man, limping…

[bigbluejeep8888]

Dec 30, 2021 7:49:51 GMT -5 homerj45 said:

Dec 30, 2021 7:33:27 GMT -5 50yearfan said:

Many of these guys are injured at practice.   So it wouldn't be just the stadium.

Just to many on the field injuries to ignore it. It was gruesome watching Shep get locked down on the turf 

Metlife stadium needs major renovations. They need to add a partial roof something like they have in Seattle, they need to have a 2 field system. Grass for giants and Jets games and field turf for the other games.

[50yearfan]

The Giants are notorious for putting a ton of young players in IR in training camp, even when many of them had zero chance of making the roster. Look through our IR list and there are several of those players, some of whom most Giants fans wouldn't even recognize the name. These additional numbers exacerbate a lot of the stats cited regarding injuries and IR. If they had stayed healthy, many of them wouldn't even have made the team, yet their stats are part of what has people whining about injuries.

Then there are a bunch of guys buried on the depth charts who are now on IR. Most of them are easily replaceable special teamers.

Then there are a few starters who were also easily replaceable, such as Lemiuex and Peppers. Peppers only because of the emergence of McKinney. His playing time was probably going to decline anyhow.

I would argue that despite the shear number on IR, there are really only a handful of players that make any difference at all. I would say Martinez, Gates, and now Jones are in that group, regardless of what we think of Jones, we did lose our starting QB. I would include Shepard but he's been injured so much with a laundry list of different injuries, it's hard to say he was ever really available and the concussion issues make it even less likely for the future. One other guy I would include that others might not is Dante Pettis. When he is there, all he does is get open and produce whenever given the chance.

My argument all season is that the injuries are not what's hurting this team, it's just plain bad play by a ton of veterans that they fully expected to start, and have started. There have been WR injuries; but every week there is a decent group of WR available. The OL minus Gates has been intact for 12+ weeks now, and isn't coming together and getting any better, because of poor individual play. This is, and always has been, about lack of talent and failure of people to play up to their contracts.

[BigBlueRiseAgain]

Dec 30, 2021 7:10:52 GMT -5 homerj45 said:

Something going on with the turf at Met Life for sure

Peart just tore his ACL on natural grass in PHI.

[calliesdad2019]

In general,nfl players are bigger, faster,stronger
So that leads to more extreme collisions ,concussions
Add to that the lack of practice / training camp
That adds to the soft tissue injuries
also the nfl ped policy is a complete joke . There are numerous players running around on hgh 
and it all adds up to this.