Post by stonedinvestor on Oct 25, 2017 7:36:59 GMT -5
The Giants continue to struggle in warm weather- AP
There has to be a common thread. As you all know by now General manager Reese addressed the fans for the one time he will all season and took the blame for the spectacle he has placed on the field. " It's my fault " He said- that's good enough for me I don't have to read any more from this man.
When I see loss after loss obviously I look for a common thread, what is going wrong in each game. Eli's head that's the first place I like to stop on my NY Giant world tour. He's all messed up. Eli's understanding of the offense is wrong. Eli includes his own fears of his offensive line in his understanding of what McAdoo wants. He says it's tough (with the hurt receivers) because you ' just want to get the ball out fast ' to some ' talented wide outs ' and ' let them make something happen ' Now with the injuries, he ' just has to manage games ' ' not make mistakes ' ' get the run game going ' and hope the defense holds. Now I would argue that Eli's default position might be the way to go all the time! But this really shows the inherent problem here at Big Blue. McAdoo's offense used to be down the field, it used to be West Coast; this chuck and duck philosophy is born out of Eli not having enough time to throw the ball. The problem is it's been happening for so many years here, Eli has allowed the fear to impregnate his understanding of what McAdoo wants. Eli really gave the barn away when I heard those words-- he only sees the two ways to game plan: Throw it quick. Or establish the run.
That's not football. That's not how we won championships. Teams have gone to work on the Giants and most seem to know what's coming before it does arrive. Eli is a broken QB which brings us to the testy question of his endurance record. I don't think this record helps the team, I think it ties our hands for future moves-- you can never say why don't you take a day off and watch from the sidelines, you can never test drive another product or show someone off to trade-- always you are hamstrung by this record of just being there. Not winning just standing. It's a selfish record. It doesn't help the team and I think all of our heads would be a little clearer if Eli would just take a knee so to speak- sit one out so that overhang is not always there as we try to move on.
Alright Eli's head, his understanding of the offense, the quality of our offensive line. All around the league there is an offensive line problem now, like a certain fancy fish-- they're just not spawning upstream the way they used to. These spread offenses in college, these lineman who never put their hand on the ground, they come to the pro's and because of the ridiculous rules of training camp never practice at full speed-- they enter the NFL overwhelmed. There are bad lineman on the offensive lines of almost all the teams in the league right now, it's a problem. The great offensive lineman is a vanishing species. A good number of middle to upper class big kids are probably turning away from football at this point. The most talented and fast guys usually wind up on the defensive side of the ball-- it's created a vanishing act. So when Reese pompously says our guys are about as good as some of these other bad offensive lines, well that does't say much or inspire confidence. How do the Eagles do it? The Patriots? The Raiders? Green Bay? Come draft time we really have to dig into this-- are we looking now just for meanest for mental instability, a guy from Tonga? Are we converting defensive guys to offense? Building a great offensive line in this day and age will be very tough. Would it be easier just to get a mobile QB?
That's the frustrating part here, how many plays could of unspooled in a longer fashion had our QB escaped ran and then thrown on the run? Very many. Talk about the best possible way to use Beckham! We need more time to make McAdoo's system work. We have traced this lack of scoring way back, we have shown Eli's misunderstanding of the playbook and the absurd situation we find ourselves in with the offensive line-- now we add the unusually hot weather.
In the past years Eli would only wear a glove in very cold weather. This year he decided to wear the glove during a string of unusually hot weather games. The idea of the glove had nothing to do with passing (it's on his left hand) but for holding on to the ball. Apparently a little stickum is going to hold down Eli's penchent for fumbling. Eli does fumble a lot. I remember about seven last year i have to double check-- so maybe it's working-- but last game that was a huge fumble, Eli got bro hugged, a slight slap and coughed it right up-- the glove certainly has not helped the passing game and it's the only thing different from last year-- I admit I am a rabbit foot kind of guy, I put power into inanimate objects, I'm superstitious as heck and that glove is a glaring no no.
Gloves are for cold games and most all of our games have been very warm. The footballs get wet out there on the field. They soak up the sweat from the behinds of the centers-- we went through all of this-- once the ball is wet really the sticky glove is of no use.
I'm not forgetting why we got here, the type of play, always the crestfallen look on Eli Manning's face. The game against the Eagles really encapsilated our whole season. The Giants sputtered for three quarters, failing to record even a single point HOWEVER they were moving the ball better than they had this season only to be stopped by questionable officials' calls, third-down failures and one terrible McAdoo play call at the goal line... Yea that's it in a nutshell!
There was that bizarre sequence at the end of the first half -- in which the Giants looked like they had two touchdown passes, only to have neither, before getting stuffed on a fourth-and-1 run -- It was bad football.
When finally we did get on the board with the Beckham touchdown, he acted like he'd never seen the TD line before. Odell crawled on the ground, and raised his leg as if he was a dog peeing. Beckham at the time laughed off the concerns.
"I was in the end zone -- I'm a dog, so I acted like a dog," he said. "I don't know if the rule book said you can't hike your leg. I was trying to find the imaginary ghost I peed on and I couldn't find it. I don't make the calls. I just play football.
I was trying to find the imaginary ghost... Well now we are all in the same position Giant fans. Whether that be searching for the ghost of Giants past, searching for that pride, that defense, that QB of old or just sitting there on our couches and becoming drenched in Beckham's pee.
The Giants need a climate change.
~stoney
There has to be a common thread. As you all know by now General manager Reese addressed the fans for the one time he will all season and took the blame for the spectacle he has placed on the field. " It's my fault " He said- that's good enough for me I don't have to read any more from this man.
When I see loss after loss obviously I look for a common thread, what is going wrong in each game. Eli's head that's the first place I like to stop on my NY Giant world tour. He's all messed up. Eli's understanding of the offense is wrong. Eli includes his own fears of his offensive line in his understanding of what McAdoo wants. He says it's tough (with the hurt receivers) because you ' just want to get the ball out fast ' to some ' talented wide outs ' and ' let them make something happen ' Now with the injuries, he ' just has to manage games ' ' not make mistakes ' ' get the run game going ' and hope the defense holds. Now I would argue that Eli's default position might be the way to go all the time! But this really shows the inherent problem here at Big Blue. McAdoo's offense used to be down the field, it used to be West Coast; this chuck and duck philosophy is born out of Eli not having enough time to throw the ball. The problem is it's been happening for so many years here, Eli has allowed the fear to impregnate his understanding of what McAdoo wants. Eli really gave the barn away when I heard those words-- he only sees the two ways to game plan: Throw it quick. Or establish the run.
That's not football. That's not how we won championships. Teams have gone to work on the Giants and most seem to know what's coming before it does arrive. Eli is a broken QB which brings us to the testy question of his endurance record. I don't think this record helps the team, I think it ties our hands for future moves-- you can never say why don't you take a day off and watch from the sidelines, you can never test drive another product or show someone off to trade-- always you are hamstrung by this record of just being there. Not winning just standing. It's a selfish record. It doesn't help the team and I think all of our heads would be a little clearer if Eli would just take a knee so to speak- sit one out so that overhang is not always there as we try to move on.
Alright Eli's head, his understanding of the offense, the quality of our offensive line. All around the league there is an offensive line problem now, like a certain fancy fish-- they're just not spawning upstream the way they used to. These spread offenses in college, these lineman who never put their hand on the ground, they come to the pro's and because of the ridiculous rules of training camp never practice at full speed-- they enter the NFL overwhelmed. There are bad lineman on the offensive lines of almost all the teams in the league right now, it's a problem. The great offensive lineman is a vanishing species. A good number of middle to upper class big kids are probably turning away from football at this point. The most talented and fast guys usually wind up on the defensive side of the ball-- it's created a vanishing act. So when Reese pompously says our guys are about as good as some of these other bad offensive lines, well that does't say much or inspire confidence. How do the Eagles do it? The Patriots? The Raiders? Green Bay? Come draft time we really have to dig into this-- are we looking now just for meanest for mental instability, a guy from Tonga? Are we converting defensive guys to offense? Building a great offensive line in this day and age will be very tough. Would it be easier just to get a mobile QB?
That's the frustrating part here, how many plays could of unspooled in a longer fashion had our QB escaped ran and then thrown on the run? Very many. Talk about the best possible way to use Beckham! We need more time to make McAdoo's system work. We have traced this lack of scoring way back, we have shown Eli's misunderstanding of the playbook and the absurd situation we find ourselves in with the offensive line-- now we add the unusually hot weather.
In the past years Eli would only wear a glove in very cold weather. This year he decided to wear the glove during a string of unusually hot weather games. The idea of the glove had nothing to do with passing (it's on his left hand) but for holding on to the ball. Apparently a little stickum is going to hold down Eli's penchent for fumbling. Eli does fumble a lot. I remember about seven last year i have to double check-- so maybe it's working-- but last game that was a huge fumble, Eli got bro hugged, a slight slap and coughed it right up-- the glove certainly has not helped the passing game and it's the only thing different from last year-- I admit I am a rabbit foot kind of guy, I put power into inanimate objects, I'm superstitious as heck and that glove is a glaring no no.
Gloves are for cold games and most all of our games have been very warm. The footballs get wet out there on the field. They soak up the sweat from the behinds of the centers-- we went through all of this-- once the ball is wet really the sticky glove is of no use.
I'm not forgetting why we got here, the type of play, always the crestfallen look on Eli Manning's face. The game against the Eagles really encapsilated our whole season. The Giants sputtered for three quarters, failing to record even a single point HOWEVER they were moving the ball better than they had this season only to be stopped by questionable officials' calls, third-down failures and one terrible McAdoo play call at the goal line... Yea that's it in a nutshell!
There was that bizarre sequence at the end of the first half -- in which the Giants looked like they had two touchdown passes, only to have neither, before getting stuffed on a fourth-and-1 run -- It was bad football.
When finally we did get on the board with the Beckham touchdown, he acted like he'd never seen the TD line before. Odell crawled on the ground, and raised his leg as if he was a dog peeing. Beckham at the time laughed off the concerns.
"I was in the end zone -- I'm a dog, so I acted like a dog," he said. "I don't know if the rule book said you can't hike your leg. I was trying to find the imaginary ghost I peed on and I couldn't find it. I don't make the calls. I just play football.
I was trying to find the imaginary ghost... Well now we are all in the same position Giant fans. Whether that be searching for the ghost of Giants past, searching for that pride, that defense, that QB of old or just sitting there on our couches and becoming drenched in Beckham's pee.
The Giants need a climate change.
~stoney