Post by calliesdad2019 on Dec 30, 2019 17:27:36 GMT -5
www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/12/30/21043084/pat-shurmur-dave-gettleman-new-york-giants
My favorite quote is this
Gettleman clearly has a decent eye for talent, drafting Barkley, guard Will Hernandez, defensive end Lorenzo Carter, and receiver Darius Slayton. But he nullifies any value he brings there by eschewing modern team-building logic. Gettleman began his Giants tenure by mocking the analytics departments that have propelled the Ravens to become the league’s best and most exciting team. Whereas most franchises subscribe to the notion that having as many draft picks as possible is a good thing, Gettleman goes the other way. His philosophy is essentially the opposite of that of Bill Belichick and the Patriots.
“All kidding aside, having 12 picks is crazy,” Gettleman said before this spring’s draft. “One of the things I have talked about is that you don’t want to draft a player that you are going to cut. Every guy you draft, there is a reason you are drafting him and a reason that he should make your club. First-, second-, third-round draft picks at the very least, you are looking for a big rotational player.”
Gettleman has never traded down as a GM, during his time with either the Panthers or the Giants. After the 2018 draft, he told reporters that he had only been offered “a bag of doughnuts, a hot pretzel, a hot dog” for the no. 2 pick that became Barkley, even though the Jets traded away three second-rounders to move up to the no. 3 spot. Gettleman also said that once the Browns surprised everyone by taking Baker Mayfield at no. 1 overall in 2018, he didn’t even want to field phone calls for the no. 2 pick. Considering that quarterbacks Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, and Lamar Jackson were still on the board, not taking phone calls for that pick was borderline malpractice.
Gettleman also reportedly didn’t call other teams when he wanted to trade Odell Beckham Jr. last offseason. The Giants signed Beckham to what was then the largest deal for a receiver in league history in August 2018, later saying “we didn’t sign him to trade him.” But Gettleman soon began to shop Beckham and completed a deal with Browns GM John Dorsey, his friend of 37 years, without first asking other teams if they could beat Cleveland’s offer. “The 49ers were stunned,” according to a joint report from ESPN’s Jordan Raanan and Pat McManamon. “[San Francisco general manager John] Lynch and Gettleman had multiple conversations spanning weeks. Despite the 49ers monitoring the situation closely, they ultimately never heard from the Giants before the trade was made.”
My favorite quote is this
Gettleman clearly has a decent eye for talent, drafting Barkley, guard Will Hernandez, defensive end Lorenzo Carter, and receiver Darius Slayton. But he nullifies any value he brings there by eschewing modern team-building logic. Gettleman began his Giants tenure by mocking the analytics departments that have propelled the Ravens to become the league’s best and most exciting team. Whereas most franchises subscribe to the notion that having as many draft picks as possible is a good thing, Gettleman goes the other way. His philosophy is essentially the opposite of that of Bill Belichick and the Patriots.
“All kidding aside, having 12 picks is crazy,” Gettleman said before this spring’s draft. “One of the things I have talked about is that you don’t want to draft a player that you are going to cut. Every guy you draft, there is a reason you are drafting him and a reason that he should make your club. First-, second-, third-round draft picks at the very least, you are looking for a big rotational player.”
Gettleman has never traded down as a GM, during his time with either the Panthers or the Giants. After the 2018 draft, he told reporters that he had only been offered “a bag of doughnuts, a hot pretzel, a hot dog” for the no. 2 pick that became Barkley, even though the Jets traded away three second-rounders to move up to the no. 3 spot. Gettleman also said that once the Browns surprised everyone by taking Baker Mayfield at no. 1 overall in 2018, he didn’t even want to field phone calls for the no. 2 pick. Considering that quarterbacks Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, and Lamar Jackson were still on the board, not taking phone calls for that pick was borderline malpractice.
Gettleman also reportedly didn’t call other teams when he wanted to trade Odell Beckham Jr. last offseason. The Giants signed Beckham to what was then the largest deal for a receiver in league history in August 2018, later saying “we didn’t sign him to trade him.” But Gettleman soon began to shop Beckham and completed a deal with Browns GM John Dorsey, his friend of 37 years, without first asking other teams if they could beat Cleveland’s offer. “The 49ers were stunned,” according to a joint report from ESPN’s Jordan Raanan and Pat McManamon. “[San Francisco general manager John] Lynch and Gettleman had multiple conversations spanning weeks. Despite the 49ers monitoring the situation closely, they ultimately never heard from the Giants before the trade was made.”