Giants tagged Williams. That alone brought them down to 61 million. Cody Core, Bradberry and Martinez signings brought them down to about 41 million. Add in Fackrell there down too 36 million. I think with the TE and smaller moves like Rosas they might be somewhere in the 25-27 range.
Forget Clowney. Giants are tapped out.
How they can still sign Clowney or a pass rusher
Get Williams under a long term deal Cut Bethea
Those 2 moves depending on how they structure Williams could save the Giants several million, it appears the Giants are pretty much done
The cap can be manipulated to sign Clowney, if the Giants can get lucky enough to do so. It's easy to backload the contract or make it into a signing bonus. So don't get too depressed over where the Giants are in the cap right now, because thats the one think Kevin Abrams is good at doing.
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Post by ctnygfan1156 on Mar 18, 2020 7:39:56 GMT -5
According to Lombardo's tweet found on the summary of tweets on this site the Giants have about 9.8 million left after allocating $ 14 million for the draft. That can rise based on how some contracts are structured.
I'm sure that if there is someone they want badly enough there are ways to free up money. It's not like they need 1 player to put them over the top so I'm sure that means being fiscally responsible with the future in mind.
They just announced Bradbury's contract. Very friendly to the cap this year. Trying to figure out how these new contracts affect the cap is basically a waste of time. The Accounting offices of these teams spend a huge percentage of their time figuring out what the cap says, and how to work with it/around it. Also, don't forget as players get added there are players dropping out the bottom of the calculation. So a guy who costs $3 mil/yr is bumping off a guy who costs $600,000, so the net effect is only $2.4 mil. The cap is only the top 53 salaries.
So we've signed four new players, so at least $2.4 mil has dropped out the bottom of the calculation, assuming we had 53 people on the roster; which I believe there are.
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That's why I don't understand people saying the Giants are still looking for a RT, a Center, a WR, another linebacker and an edge rusher in free agency. Uh, no, they're not, because they're out of cap space. The draft is all that is left.
The latest on sportstrac is that the Giants have $34 mil left, and are still in the top 12 in the league. They don't tell you who has been included and who hasn't, but it's one of the better estimates out there. OvertheCap has it at around $16 mil and looks pretty up to date. If they find people they really want, they have two options right up front. Cut Tate for a $10 mil boost, or disenfranchise WIlliams for a $16 mil boost. The cap is a fairly complex calculation, and doing addition and subtraction without all the nuances isn't going to get anywhere near the right number.
Bottom line is the Giants can still be aggressive.
Last Edit: Mar 18, 2020 10:16:36 GMT -5 by 50yearfan
Effective after 4 PM EST today, teams can release players with a post-June 1 designation, which would allow them to spread dead money over two seasons. That will afford teams more money on the 2020 cap as they continue to work through free agency.
Post by ctnygfan1156 on Mar 18, 2020 10:58:10 GMT -5
Giants being very smart, if still in on Clowney not bidding against themselves, maybe it's better to have 5 guys who get you 7-10 sacks a year than 1 guy who will get you 20 as you'll never know where the pressure is coming from ...
I Just hope the Giants keep away from Clowney. Sure, I would like Clowney at the right price, but the guy is looking for a fortune, and I don't trust paying him that much.
Clowney isn't the kind of football player that would get along with Judge IMO. He is a little lazy, gets hurt a lot, doesn't always have the best attitude.
Read something interesting: one of the Giants reporters said that Belichick often did pass rush/sacks by committee rather than rely on one or two particular players. That should be the Giants model this year. Don't lock yourself into a bad contract. The Giants can always prioritize pass rushers in the 2021 draft.
For the 2020 draft, I'm prioritizing OL to benefit D.Jones' long term development.
Key point mentioned by Stapleton about new contracts Eric from BBI : Admin : 9:42 am Art Stapleton @art_stapleton
The Giants are keeping the $ on the front side of these new contracts so when they are positioned to contend they can have the space to add more pricey pieces down the road, especially with expanding cap.
This is a smart philosophical change for a team in rebuilding mode. also Eric from BBI : Admin : 9:43 am : link Dan Duggan @dduggan21 · 24m Nate Solder is due a $3M bonus if he's on the Giants' roster when the new league starts at 4 p.m. Solder will have a $19.5M cap hit in 2020 (second-highest of any OL behind Trent Brown). ... Eric from BBI : Admin : 9:44 am : link Dan Duggan @dduggan21 · 51m The Giants have used their cap space to totally front load their cap hits. It's a big change in their contract structure. Instead of signing bonuses they've given big roster bonuses Year 1. A month ago I broke down the benefits of this structure
Ralph Vacchiano @rvacchianosny This is true (and an interesting read) ... Giants are front-loading these deals, which will give them more flexibility, more options, and more room to spend in future years.
It also makes it easier to get out if the deals go bad (although they're all short-term anyway).
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