Post by lazur on Apr 14, 2024 18:21:33 GMT -5
The more I think about the state of the Giants the worse I feel this team is actually in. The only way out is winning. I know most of you feel I’m anti Jones and I have my reasons. This is the problem with this team right now
Daboll is on the hot seat. Schoen is probably safe. Mara has more patience with his GMs than he does with his coaching. There lies problem 1
1. Daboll needs to win now. Push for a WR.
Daboll cavy have another losing season. Fastest way to safety is to draft a stud WR and pray Jones and the offense score more points and win.
Schoen is probably wanting to win now but understands Jones has durability issues, a lower ceiling and being consistent in the win category is probably not going to happen. Schoen probably wants to trade the farm and get his quarterback. And look to 2025 as he builds
Picking 6 is a bad spot for the Giants. To far back to get a top 3 QB. Not far enough back to draft the next waive of Quarterbacks
I feel Maye is not in that conversation. To much boom or bust in him. I still think Penix is that guy that will shock the NFL world this year. Whoever turns in that card will get a very good passer. I have a feeling if it’s not the Giants at 6. The Broncos will jump all over Penix. Payton likes QBs that get the ball out quickly. That’s what Breese made his living. Getting the ball out fast. Running the ball and play action. Penix is that player.
If the Giants stick with Jones. He struggles or gets hurt. Daboll is out of a job. If the Giants pick a quarterback. And he sits. The media and fans will be all over it. Especially if the Giants struggle. Daboll is out of a job
If the Giants pass on quarterback and Jones plays a little better and put together a 500 season or so. Daboll is on the fence but still have a mediocre team and this conversation continues into 2025
The only way out of this is if they draft a Quarterback. He has the Stroud effect and saves Giants football in NY. Can Jones do that? Some here feel he can. Personally I do not.
Why?
In today’s NFL. The ball has to come out quickly. That is not Jones game. Jones works best when he throws the ball 20-25 times a game. Runs the ball 5-10 times a game and has a strong run game behind him. After 2 kneck injuries and an ACL. This may not be in his cards. So now the Giants are forced to play an offense that’s not to Jones strengths.
People will question Penix because of his injuries. Let’s talk about this. Penix had back to back ACL seasons . As a young Quarterback in college he ran the ball a lot. The last 2 years Penix changed his complete game to a pocket Quarterback. Reading the field and getting the ball out quickly. Does that guarantee him staying healthy? No. But I will put money on a quarterback staying in the pocket staying healthy over the guy running the ball taking full contact hits with no rules to protect him.
The Giants are in a tough spot. Waiting for round 2 is not an option to find a quarterback. The next group after the top 6 are a big risk to lay your hat on.
What will save Dabolls job is not offense. It’s defense. They need to restructure Thomas. Get a Simmons in here, get a veteran corner opposite of Banks. Keep the games close as possible. Draft your rookie future at QB and continue to build fr 2025. If they go 7-10 but are in every game until the end. This just may work for 2025!!
Daboll is on the hot seat. Schoen is probably safe. Mara has more patience with his GMs than he does with his coaching. There lies problem 1
1. Daboll needs to win now. Push for a WR.
Daboll cavy have another losing season. Fastest way to safety is to draft a stud WR and pray Jones and the offense score more points and win.
Schoen is probably wanting to win now but understands Jones has durability issues, a lower ceiling and being consistent in the win category is probably not going to happen. Schoen probably wants to trade the farm and get his quarterback. And look to 2025 as he builds
Picking 6 is a bad spot for the Giants. To far back to get a top 3 QB. Not far enough back to draft the next waive of Quarterbacks
I feel Maye is not in that conversation. To much boom or bust in him. I still think Penix is that guy that will shock the NFL world this year. Whoever turns in that card will get a very good passer. I have a feeling if it’s not the Giants at 6. The Broncos will jump all over Penix. Payton likes QBs that get the ball out quickly. That’s what Breese made his living. Getting the ball out fast. Running the ball and play action. Penix is that player.
If the Giants stick with Jones. He struggles or gets hurt. Daboll is out of a job. If the Giants pick a quarterback. And he sits. The media and fans will be all over it. Especially if the Giants struggle. Daboll is out of a job
If the Giants pass on quarterback and Jones plays a little better and put together a 500 season or so. Daboll is on the fence but still have a mediocre team and this conversation continues into 2025
The only way out of this is if they draft a Quarterback. He has the Stroud effect and saves Giants football in NY. Can Jones do that? Some here feel he can. Personally I do not.
Why?
In today’s NFL. The ball has to come out quickly. That is not Jones game. Jones works best when he throws the ball 20-25 times a game. Runs the ball 5-10 times a game and has a strong run game behind him. After 2 kneck injuries and an ACL. This may not be in his cards. So now the Giants are forced to play an offense that’s not to Jones strengths.
People will question Penix because of his injuries. Let’s talk about this. Penix had back to back ACL seasons . As a young Quarterback in college he ran the ball a lot. The last 2 years Penix changed his complete game to a pocket Quarterback. Reading the field and getting the ball out quickly. Does that guarantee him staying healthy? No. But I will put money on a quarterback staying in the pocket staying healthy over the guy running the ball taking full contact hits with no rules to protect him.
The Giants are in a tough spot. Waiting for round 2 is not an option to find a quarterback. The next group after the top 6 are a big risk to lay your hat on.
What will save Dabolls job is not offense. It’s defense. They need to restructure Thomas. Get a Simmons in here, get a veteran corner opposite of Banks. Keep the games close as possible. Draft your rookie future at QB and continue to build fr 2025. If they go 7-10 but are in every game until the end. This just may work for 2025!!